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November 30, 2011

Ken Rosenthal says Mark Buehrle and John Danks won’t be playing for the White Sox next year

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ November 30, 2011 3:15 am
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J.J. Stankevitz:

With the Winter Meetings less than a week away and White Sox news stagnating a bit in the last few weeks, maybe a reminder that Mark Buehrle and John Danks aren’t likely to be back is in order.

That’s precisely what FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal said on Tuesday’s edition of Chicago Tribune Live, telling the panel he doesn’t see either Buehrle or Danks playing for the Sox for 2012. …

Video (1:29) at the link.

November 29, 2011

Are the Sox trying to trade LHRP Matt Thornton? [UPDATE]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ November 29, 2011 9:35 pm
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MLBTR:

The White Sox have been looking to trade Matt Thornton since July and are still trying to move him, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (on Twitter). Before the 2011 season, the White Sox signed the left-hander to a two-year, $12MM extension that covers the 2012-13 seasons and includes a club option for 2014.

The 35-year-old posted a 3.32 ERA with 9.5 K/9, 3.2 BB/9, 0.45 HR/9 and a 48.8% ground ball rate in 59 2/3 innings this past season. Armed with a fastball that averages 96 mph, Thornton figures to draw interest this offseason, as he did last summer, especially since the free agent market doesn’t feature lefty relievers of his caliber. The Yankees, Blue Jays and Rangers are among the teams that may seek left-handed relief this offseason.

Thornton commented on his brief and unsuccessful trial as a closer last spring:

“Was mine an interim thing? If I had success, I’m sure it wouldn’t have been,” said Thornton of his abbreviated run at closer. “Obviously everyone knows what happened in the games I was in. Things just didn’t go well for me in that role.

“Maybe it was a sign I wasn’t meant to be a closer here. Over the years, I’ve done a good job of filling in as closer, and I believe in myself in that role and think I can get the job done at any given time when they give me the ball in the ninth inning. But the surge of [Chris] Sale this past year, what he did, and how good Sergio was for most of the year, this is the way it worked out.

“It’s one of those things where things weren’t going good for us and I was part of that in the back end of the bullpen,” Thornton said. “They had to make changes at the time. Just the lack of performance was the most frustrating part for me, my inability to have success that I expect myself to have, prepare and dedicate myself to have all offseason long. It’s very frustrating when you let the team down.”

If Thornton is traded, with Chris Sale moving to the starting rotation, the only lefty in the bullpen will be Will Ohman.

UPDATE: Buster Olney in his video blog (1:52) says the Sox are trying to move Carlos Quentin, Gavin Floyd, John Danks, and Matt Thornton.

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November 26, 2011

Sox thinking to trade a pitcher to Cincinnati to get Yonder Alonso?

Phil Rogers:

Can Yonder Alonso become a solid left fielder? That’s the question the White Sox are studying as the Reds shop the left-handed-hitting slugger for pitching. Alonso would be blocked with Paul Konerko at first base and Adam Dunn as designated hitter, although if the Sox really are willing to let Mark Buehrle walk you wonder if they also would approach Konerko about waiving his no-trade clause.

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November 24, 2011

Carlos Quentin on San Diego’s list of possible acquisitions

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ November 24, 2011 7:00 pm
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MLBTR:

The Padres have Carlos Quentin “on their list of possibilities” for an offseason trade, reports Bill Center of the San Diego Union-Tribune.  It seems like a good match, given that the White Sox are thought to have Quentin on the market and the Padres are looking for a corner outfielder.  Center mentions elsewhere in his chat with readers that given the Padres’ difficulty in luring free agent hitters to Petco Park, a trade would be the club’s best chance to add that desired corner outfield help.

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving everybody!

November 19, 2011

Seems the Yankees like Sox pitcher John Danks and the Sox like Yankees catching prospect Austin Romine

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ November 19, 2011 9:00 pm
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MLBTR:

The Yankees like John Danks and the White Sox like many Yankees prospects, particularly Austin Romine. However, Danks is a free agent after 2012 and the Yankees are reluctant to over-spend on a pitcher they’ll have for just one year.

Romine got 20 PAs with the Yankees in 2011. Here are his minor-league stats:

Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2007 18 Yankees GULF Rk NYY 1 3 2 2 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 .500 .667 1.000 1.667 2 0 0 0 0 0
2008 19 Charleston SALL A NYY 104 436 407 66 122 24 1 10 49 3 0 25 56 .300 .344 .437 .781 178 8 3 0 1 0
2009 20 Tampa FLOR A+ NYY 118 481 442 61 122 28 3 13 72 11 5 29 78 .276 .322 .441 .763 195 13 4 0 6 2
2010 21 Trenton EL AA NYY 115 497 455 61 122 31 0 10 69 2 0 37 94 .268 .324 .402 .726 183 13 2 0 3 1
2011 22 2 Teams 2 Lgs AA-AAA NYY 89 388 351 44 98 13 0 6 48 2 2 32 63 .279 .343 .368 .710 129 7 3 0 2 1
2011 22 Trenton EL AA NYY 85 373 336 43 96 13 0 6 47 2 2 32 60 .286 .351 .378 .729 127 5 3 0 2 1
2011 22 Scranton/Wilkes-Barre IL AAA NYY 4 15 15 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 .133 .133 .133 .267 2 2 0 0 0 0
5 Seasons 427 1805 1657 234 465 97 4 39 239 18 7 124 292 .281 .333 .415 .748 687 41 12 0 12 4
AA (2 seasons) AA 200 870 791 104 218 44 0 16 116 4 2 69 154 .276 .336 .392 .728 310 18 5 0 5 2
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 11/19/2011.

If Kenny trades John Danks he better ask for someone with a career minor-league OBP higher than .333. A higher ISOP [ISOP=SLG-BA] too.

November 10, 2011

Sox pitchers John Danks and Gavin Floyd drawing trade interest

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ November 10, 2011 8:00 pm
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Ken Rosenthal:

For teams seeking to trade for a starting pitcher, the White Sox can offer one from Column A and one from Column B.

Lefty John Danks appeals to high-revenue teams – he will get a raise from $6 million in his final year of arbitration, then hit free agency.

Righty Gavin Floyd, on the other hand, fits nicely for low-revenue clubs – he is signed for $7 million next season with a $9.5 million club option for 2013.

The White Sox are drawing interest in both pitchers, major-league sources say. Whether they trade one, both or neither likely hinges on the trade offers they receive. …

Will the Sox trade Danks or Floyd, or let Mark Buehrle go? At least they brought back Jason Frasor…

Jon Heyman tweets the Rangers “are believed interested” in Danks.

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September 27, 2011

Compensation for Ozzie Guillen will be a minor-league pitcher and utility infielder Ozzie Martinez

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ September 27, 2011 4:00 am
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Scott Merkin:

A source told MLB.com that the players coming to the White Sox figure to be utility infielder Ozzie Martinez and a Minor League pitcher, after Guillen was released from the one year remaining on his contract per his request to pursue other opportunities.

SS Ozzie Martinez‘ stats:

Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2006 18 Marlins GULF Rk FLA 49 194 171 21 45 4 1 1 21 7 4 19 21 .263 .335 .316 .651 54 4 0 3 1 0
2007 19 2 Teams 2 Lgs A–A+ FLA 39 131 114 8 21 5 0 0 6 8 2 12 25 .184 .268 .228 .496 26 3 1 4 0 0
2007 19 Jamestown NYPL A- FLA 38 130 114 8 21 5 0 0 6 8 2 11 25 .184 .262 .228 .490 26 3 1 4 0 0
2007 19 Jupiter FLOR A+ FLA 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.000 0 0 0 0 0 0
2008 20 Greensboro SALL A FLA 85 331 304 44 90 11 3 6 29 5 5 13 46 .296 .331 .411 .742 125 12 4 8 2 0
2009 21 Jupiter FLOR A+ FLA 130 485 433 54 110 16 5 1 45 16 4 41 51 .254 .323 .321 .644 139 15 4 5 2 0
2010 22 Jacksonville SOUL AA FLA 130 587 516 90 156 28 4 5 54 13 9 49 64 .302 .372 .401 .773 207 10 9 11 2 0
2011 23 New Orleans PCL AAA FLA 88 371 339 43 83 15 1 3 26 11 4 21 57 .245 .296 .322 .618 109 9 5 3 3 0
6 Seasons 521 2099 1877 260 505 79 14 16 181 60 28 155 264 .269 .331 .352 .682 660 53 23 34 10 0
A+ (2 seasons) A+ 131 486 433 54 110 16 5 1 45 16 4 42 51 .254 .324 .321 .645 139 15 4 5 2 0
A (1 season) A 85 331 304 44 90 11 3 6 29 5 5 13 46 .296 .331 .411 .742 125 12 4 8 2 0
AA (1 season) AA 130 587 516 90 156 28 4 5 54 13 9 49 64 .302 .372 .401 .773 207 10 9 11 2 0
Rk (1 season) Rk 49 194 171 21 45 4 1 1 21 7 4 19 21 .263 .335 .316 .651 54 4 0 3 1 0
A- (1 season) A- 38 130 114 8 21 5 0 0 6 8 2 11 25 .184 .262 .228 .490 26 3 1 4 0 0
AAA (1 season) AAA 88 371 339 43 83 15 1 3 26 11 4 21 57 .245 .296 .322 .618 109 9 5 3 3 0
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/27/2011.

John Sickels gave Martinez C+ grade:

7) Osvaldo Martinez, SS, Grade C+:  .230/.286/.306 with 18 walks, 48 strikeouts in 278 at-bats for New Orleans. 3-for-20 in the majors. The bat is going to be a big problem, and he only ranked this high due to the weakness of the system. Baseball America had him fifth.

As I said earlier, could the minor league pitcher be 20-year old Class-A+ prospect LHP Chad James?

Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2010 19 Greensboro SALL A FLA 5 10 .333 5.12 24 24 0 0 0 0 114.1 116 70 65 3 65 0 105 5 0 18 513 1.583 9.1 0.2 5.1 8.3 1.62
2011 20 Jupiter FLOR A+ FLA 5 15 .250 3.80 27 27 0 0 0 0 149.1 173 77 63 12 51 0 124 2 0 10 650 1.500 10.4 0.7 3.1 7.5 2.43
2 Seasons 10 25 .286 4.37 51 51 0 0 0 0 263.2 289 147 128 15 116 0 229 7 0 28 1163 1.536 9.9 0.5 4.0 7.8 1.97
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/26/2011.

John Sickels had this to say for Chad James:

3) Chad James, LHP, Grade B-   3.89 ERA with 114/47 K/BB in 134 innings for High-A Jupiter, 155 hits, 3-15 record. He hasn’t been awful but is hittable. Young at 20.

Sickels’ grades are from last year. Comments are from his review.

September 26, 2011

Multiple sources say Ozzie Guillen will be traded to Florida by the time tonight’s game ends

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ September 26, 2011 7:49 pm
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Joe Cowley:

According to multiple sources, the Sox and Florida Marlins are in the final stages of completing a deal that would send the never-boring Guillen to South Beach, ending his eight-year stay with the club he grew up white as a player and helped guide to a World Series in 2005 as a second-year manager.

The end is expected to become at the conclusion of Monday night’s game against the Toronto Blue Jays at U.S. Cellular Field, sources said.

As far as the coaching staff, expect mass changes there as well, all except pitching coach Don Cooper, who according to sources, already has a deal on the table to stay with the organization.

… Sources have indicated, however, that privately Guillen walked away from the meeting knowing his days with the Sox were over, and the talk was more about the details of the split. It was not heated, and if anything, emotional from both sides.

Standard Joe Cowley disclaimer applies.

UPDATE: WSCR reports it too.

Bruce Levine reports that:

Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen gathered his players before Monday’s game against the Toronto Blue Jays and told them that it would be his final one, according to sources close to the situation.

UPDATE: More on the CSN postgame report.

UPDATE: A couple tweets from the Sox:

UPDATE: Press Release: White Sox release manager Ozzie Guillen from contract.

September 15, 2011

Ozzie Guillen’s chances to remain with the Sox down to 10%?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ September 15, 2011 2:12 pm
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Ken Rosenthal:

How rapidly is Ozzie Guillen’s situation deteriorating with the White Sox?

Two weeks ago, a source with knowledge of Guillen’s thinking estimated that the manager was 95 percent certain to return to the White Sox next season.

Over the weekend, the source dropped the odds to 50-50. And on Thursday, he reduced them further, to 10 percent.

The White Sox have not acted on Guillen’s desire for a contract extension. Guillen, meanwhile, was sharply critical of his players after a 6-5 loss to the Tigers in 10 innings on Wednesday night, saying he hasn’t seen “fight.” …

Rosenthal thinks the ‘trade to the Marlins’ would be the obvious solution.

September 14, 2011

The Sox won’t resolve Ozzie Guillen’s situation until after the Marlins have hired a manager says Jayson Stark

Stark @ ESPN:

Who will be managing the White Sox next season? We tossed that question at a baseball source who is tight with team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, and got this succinct reply: “Ozzie Guillen.”

The same source also said, with zero equivocation, that if the Marlins think they can wait this out and then scoop Guillen off the unemployment line this winter, they’d better re-think. Unless the folks in Florida want to trade a big-time player to the South Side, the source said, the White Sox won’t make any move to resolve Guillen’s future until after the Marlins have hired a manager.

Seems like the Sox want to make others think Guillen isn’t going anywhere so they have more leverage in any negotiations that take place. I’m not confident it will work. There is also this nugget:

White Sox officials have been telling people in the game they need to cut payroll next year after going over budget this season. And they also have five starters under contract for next year, even without Buehrle.

So an executive of one team who spoke with the White Sox brass says the only way he sees them making room for Buehrle is if he’s willing to “be creative” about his next contract. AND the club would have to be able to trade one of its current starters — most likely Gavin Floyd. Can all that happen? Of course. But it’s still a lot of hoops for Buehrle and his team to jump through.

I think Buehrle will be “creative.” Maybe a 2-3 year offer would be enough. Sign him Jerry!

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September 12, 2011

Florida Marlins haven’t ruled out trading a player for Ozzie Guillen [UPDATE]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ September 12, 2011 12:55 pm
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Barry Jackson @ Miami Herald:

The Marlins haven’t ruled out trading a player (certainly not a key one) for top managerial choice Ozzie Guillen, but prefer not to, and will wait until his availability is known before moving on to anyone else.

UPDATE: Ken Rosenthal chimes in:

A few weeks back, a source familiar with Ozzie Guillen’s thinking predicted that it was 95 percent certain that Guillen would remain the White Sox’s manager.

The source has now dropped the odds to 50-50, and says Guillen’s chances of staying are that good only because owner Jerry Reinsdorf has been loyal to him before.

Guillen wants a contract extension, and so far the White Sox are cool to the idea. Something has to give: The return of Guillen as a lame duck would be potentially explosive for both sides.

August 21, 2011

How did Jim Thome unlock his power potential

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 21, 2011 3:00 am
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Kepner @ NYT:

When Jim Thome and Ryan Howard come to the plate, they dig their spikes into the left-hander’s batter’s box, keeping the left foot closer to the plate than the right foot. They extend their right arm, pointing the bat menacingly to some distant spot beyond the center-field wall, like a samurai offering his sword to the pitcher.

Thome, who belted his 600th career homer last week, and Howard, who had 279 entering Friday, both learned from a master.

“Charlie told me about it when I was in Double-A,” Howard said last week, referring to Philadelphia Phillies Manager Charlie Manuel. “He told me to do that to make sure that both eyes were on the pitcher — and to set open, so that when I came back and brought my bat back, my eyes are still on the pitcher.”

The emergence of Howard forced Thome out of Philadelphia in 2005, after three just seasons. But Thome, who now plays for the Minnesota Twins, is still warmly regarded in Philadelphia, where a video tribute to him played before a game last week. He still reveres Manuel, who helped unlock his power as a Cleveland Indians farmhand in the early 1990s. …

Hey, maybe Greg Walker can learn something…

July 31, 2011

Kenny is looking for pitching

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 31, 2011 3:00 am
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July 30, 2011

Atlanta and Boston would like to acquire Carlos Quentin for a bucket of balls

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2011 3:00 pm
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As we saw before:

But Atlanta isn’t the only team interested in Carlos Quentin:

Kenny must be requesting something good in return:

Chuck Garfien says Kenny wants starting pitching:

With the trade deadline coming at 3pm on Sunday, who knows if the current White Sox team will still be intact by then. The hot rumor right now has GM Ken Williams dangling Carlos Quentin to the Braves and Phillies in return for starting pitching.

Matt Thornton is a wanted man

Did you say Derek Holland Kenny?

John Danks? Kenny just hung up:

But there is another suitor:

You mean the Yankee$ aren’t among the suitors? Well:

One more:

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