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August 30, 2010

Manny Ramirez claim official; too late for tonight’s White Sox lineup

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 30, 2010 12:19 pm
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Bob Nightengale tweets that Manny Ramirez is on his way to Cleveland and should be in the White Sox lineup tonight.

Earlier Nightengale tweeted that the Dodgers haven’t decided if they want a prospect from the White Sox for Manny, meaning it’ll be a straight waiver claim. Before that Nightengale tweeted that the Dodgers are trying to decide whether to take 22-year old Winston-Salem 3B Jon Gilmore, who’s hitting .318/.354/.404, and pick up some of Manny’s salary or take only the salary relief.

UPDATE #1: And the move is done tweets Nightengale. Peter Gammons tweets that the White Sox decided to pick up all of Manny’s remaining salary ($3.8 million) and not give any prospects. Nightengale tweets that the Dodgers rejected the White Sox offer and chose salary relief.

Nightengale, also, tweets that Manny waited for the deal to be finalized before leaving for Cleveland, and won’t be in time for tonight’s game. He’s scheduled to play in the Tuesday night game.

UPDATE #2: Here’s the press release.

And here are a few more Manny to the White Sox links: BB Musings, HardballTalk, Fangraphs.


Tim Marchman on the White Sox adding Manny Ramirez

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 30, 2010 1:11 am

Marchman @ SI:

… Coming as soon as it does after the leak of financial documents proving that it really can be more profitable to play to lose than to try to win, it’s something to see a team take winning seriously enough to lay a reported $4.5 million worth of chips on that one shot in six.

Chicago is, as the great Frank Thomas once infamously said, a Cubs town. When a play like this goes down, you wonder why.

Don’t tell Ozzie!

August 29, 2010

Will adding Manny Ramirez be bad for the team chemistry Paulie?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 29, 2010 9:57 pm
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“It’s already kind of a circus,” says White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko. “Worrying about bringing in another personality, we’ve got enough to go around…I wouldn’t worry about the chemistry.”

Besides, the White Sox already have a soap opera with the on-going friction between White Sox GM Kenny Williams and Guillen.

“If me and Kenny don’t hurt this ballclub, nobody can hurt it,” Guillen says. “At least we’ll be talking about Manny and not worry about Ozzie. That’d be great for me.”

Manny Ramirez will be a White Sox tomorrow (straight waiver claim)

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 29, 2010 7:28 pm
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Dylan Hernandez @ LA Times:

Manny Ramirez will be sent to the Chicago White Sox on a waiver deal Monday, according to a baseball source who spoke on the condition of anonymity.The Dodgers aren’t expected to get any players in return, but are likely to unburden themselves of the $4 million or so that Ramirez is due to earn over the remainder of the regular season.

Couldn’t this have happened on Friday? We could have used Manny in the last 2 games.

UPDATE #1: Jayson Stark (ESPN) tweets that there is still a chance a deal gets worked out (Dodgers get a prospect from the Sox in exchange for picking up some salary). The LA Times, MLB.com, and Ken Rosenthal say it will be a straight waiver claim (cash only, no prospects to the Dodgers).

UPDATE #2: Jeff Fletcher (MLB Fanhouse) speculates that Kenny Williams determined the Dodgers lacked the leverage to demand any even a marginal prospect in return for Manny, and didn’t offer them anything.

UPDATE #3: NBC 5 Chicago says Manny’s remaining salary is $3.825 million.

Manny Ramirez not in the Dodgers lineup again

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 29, 2010 2:45 pm
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What it’s gonna be today?

Torre’s rationale for sitting Ramirez Saturday — not wanting the aging hitter to have to cover the unusually vast leftfield acreage at Coors Field — carried over to Sunday.

“It’s still a big outfield,” Torre said.

Will there be a different excuse tomorrow or will Manny be in a black uniform?

UPDATE: Manny is telling his friends he can’t wait to join the Sox tweets Bob Nightengale, who thinks the Dodgers will deal Manny to the Sox. Jon Heyman, also, thinks the Dodgers will deal Manny to the Sox.

August 28, 2010

Nothing’s moving on the Manny Ramirez front

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 28, 2010 8:07 pm
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Jon Heyman tweets there’s no evidence of serious trade talks between the Sox and the Dodgers. He adds the Dodgers could choose to keep Manny. Manny wasn’t in the Dodgers lineup for the 3rd consecutive game. Joe Torre said he’s becoming “superstitious” about starting Manny. Mike says the Sox need to create leverage by pretending they’re interested in Adam Laroche. Or really go after him.

White Sox willing to assume $2 million of Manny’s remaining salary

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 28, 2010 2:06 am
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The Dodgers want the Sox to pay all the remaining salary:

Ramirez is owed about $1.1 million for the rest of this season, but he’s also owed about $3.2 million in deferred salary next season. The Dodgers don’t want to pay any of that if Ramirez is sent to the Sox, team sources said Friday.

The Sox, in turn, have offered to assume only about $2 million of the total remaining salary. … The Sox also are expected to send one or more prospects to the Dodgers as part of any trade.

August 27, 2010

White Sox, Dodgers to discuss Manny over the weekend?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 27, 2010 3:42 pm
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Dyck @ CT:

Nothing will happen over the weekend, according to one source familiar with the proceedings, allowing both sides to assess where they are and exactly what they need.

Assess where they are and exactly what they need? I hope this is a joke.

Both teams know where they are. The Sox are 3.5 games the Twinkies behind in their division and there’s no other team between the two. The Dodgers are 5 games behind the Giants in the Wild Card and there are 3 more teams between the two. There also are 2 teams right behind them.

Both teams know what they need. The Sox need a DH in their quest to catch the Twinkies. The Dodgers need to get rid of Manny’s contract since it’s unlikely all 4 teams slip (don’t forget 2 teams right behind them) and they go to the top.

Can we speed things up please?

White Sox win Manny Ramirez claim

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 27, 2010 1:28 pm
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Stark @ ESPN tweets:

White Sox were the team awarded the claim on Manny, according to MLB source. Strong indications Rangers & Rays also claimed him.

Stark @ ESPN writes:

The Chicago White Sox on Friday were awarded the claim on Manny Ramirez, according to a source monitoring the waiver wire.

No National League team put in a claim on the Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder. But two other American League teams claimed Ramirez, and strong indications are those teams were the Texas Rangers and Tampa Bay Rays. The White Sox were awarded the claim because they were the AL contender with the lowest winning percentage. …

Now the Sox and the Dodgers have until 12:30 pm CT Tuesday to work out a deal for Manny.

UPDATE: Merkin’s analysis:

One school of thought is that the Dodgers will wait until the last moment to decide on a trade, letting another weekend pass to see if they remain in contention for a National League playoff spot. The Dodgers entered Friday’s action sitting in fifth place in the NL Wild Card race but only five games behind the top spot.

Paying the $4.5 million to Ramirez for one month of service — basically $1 million more than left-hander John Danks is earning for the full 2010 campaign — would seem like a prohibitive cost. But the White Sox play 16 of their final 22 games at U.S. Cellular Field, including four against the Red Sox from Sept. 27-30, and the presence of Ramirez could increase the daily gate.

Manny Ramirez decision up to the Dodgers

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 27, 2010 12:53 pm
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Rosenthal tweets “To expand upon what I wrote, Manny decision rests w[ith] Dodgers. White Sox ready to act. Source says Manny NOT asking for extension…Had been told earlier that he wanted additional year to waive no-trade.”

another Rosenthal tweet: Dodgers 5 back in WC race; might have prompted claim, or claims. Teams daring Ned Colletti to give up Manny while in race.

Heyman tweets many teams claimed Manny. No word who won the claim.

Morosi tweets neither the Rays nor the Yankee$ made a claim.

Heyman tweets the Rangers didn’t win the claim.

August 26, 2010

Manny Ramirez wants extension; not in today’s lineup

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 26, 2010 12:21 pm
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Manny wants a 1-year extension to waive his no-trade clause say Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi. If he clears waivers he’d gain leverage to do so. But if the White Sox claim him, as they plan and may have done already, the Dodgers would be able to negotiate with 1 team only and his leverage evaporates.

Also, Manny isn’t in the Dodgers lineup today (2 pm CT stat time).

August 25, 2010

Dodgers place Manny Ramirez on waivers; may want prospect(s) back

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 25, 2010 3:57 pm
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Levine @ ESPN:

Outfielder Manny Ramirez has been placed on waivers by the Los Angeles Dodgers, sources tell ESPN.com.

Teams will have until Friday afternoon to put in a claim on Ramirez. Any team that’s awarded the claim would have until Tuesday afternoon to work out a trade with the Dodgers and, because Ramirez has a full no-trade clause, get his approval to waive that clause and accept a deal.

Teams are not convinced the Dodgers would dump Ramirez’s contract on any club that claims him. The Dodgers, rather, are likely to explore a trade in which they pick up some of the money but receive a prospect or prospects in return, sources tell ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.

Stats: B-R, FG

If Jerry comes up with the dough, go for it Kenny! But not if ‘If Jerry comes up with the dough’ means taking the money from the already low draft budget.

I just wish the Sox, and not the Twins, had Jim Thome from Day 1.

August 24, 2010

Holy Batman!

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 24, 2010 7:54 pm


if the Sox claim Ramirez and Los Angeles doesn’t pull him back, they would have to pay Ramirez roughly $4 million this year and $5 million in each of the next three years, which is all deferred as part of Manny’s 2010 salary.

thankfully that was corrected to:

if the Sox claim Ramirez and Los Angeles doesn’t pull him back, they would have to pay Ramirez over $1 million this year and over $3 million in deferred money.

I commit my share of mistakes like this!

White Sox will claim Manny Ramirez

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 24, 2010 1:51 pm
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Rosenthal @ FS:

Manny Ramirez will not get through waivers. The White Sox, who pursued Ramirez before the non-waiver deadline, will claim him with the intention of acquiring him, according to a major-league source.

The Dodgers have yet to put Ramirez on waivers, but that move is expected as early as Tuesday. National League teams would get the first crack at claiming Ramirez, but none would be expected to take such a step.

The White Sox, whose record is the worst of the AL contenders, seemingly would be in good position to win the claim. However, they could back off claiming Ramirez if the Dodgers delayed putting him on waivers and the White Sox’s deficit in the AL Central grew from 41/2 games. …

Cowley tweets that according to a major-league source “Ken Williams is pushing all his chips on getting Manny Ramirez.”

BTW, here’s Aaron Gleeman’s take.

August 23, 2010

What salary would the White Sox have to pay Manny Ramirez?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 23, 2010 8:43 pm
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Olney @ ESPN:

The structure of Ramirez’s contract might make him more attractive to teams interested in the slugger. Any team that made a move for Ramirez would owe him a prorated portion of his $20 million salary. However, about three-quarters of his salary is deferred.

So if the Chicago White Sox or Tampa Bay Rays, for example, were to acquire Ramirez, they would owe him only $1.1 million for the rest of this season, and about $3.3 million in deferred salary.

Sounds expensive…

UPDATE !: As I was reminded below, Manny will probably net the White Sox free-agent compensation when he leaves after the season’s over. He doesn’t sound so expensive now.

UPDATE #2: Strike from the record UPDATE #1.

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