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August 23, 2010

What salary would the White Sox have to pay Manny Ramirez?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 23, 2010 8:43 pm
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Olney @ ESPN:

The structure of Ramirez’s contract might make him more attractive to teams interested in the slugger. Any team that made a move for Ramirez would owe him a prorated portion of his $20 million salary. However, about three-quarters of his salary is deferred.

So if the Chicago White Sox or Tampa Bay Rays, for example, were to acquire Ramirez, they would owe him only $1.1 million for the rest of this season, and about $3.3 million in deferred salary.

Sounds expensive…

UPDATE !: As I was reminded below, Manny will probably net the White Sox free-agent compensation when he leaves after the season’s over. He doesn’t sound so expensive now.

UPDATE #2: Strike from the record UPDATE #1.


August 21, 2010

White Sox team most likely to claim Manny Ramirez

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ August 21, 2010 7:46 pm
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MLBTR on Ken Rosenthal’s latest video update:

Now that Manny Ramirez is off the disabled list, Rosenthal provided an update to his news from last week about the possibility of Ramirez on the waiver wire.  The Dodgers will wait to put Ramirez on waivers since teams will want to make sure that he is both healthy and hitting well.  Rosenthal repeats that the White Sox are the club “most likely” to put in a claim for Ramirez, since the Sox “don’t like Brad Hawpe all that much” and they doubt that Detroit would trade them Johnny Damon.

Isn’t it a little late to add a bat?

August 16, 2010

White Sox could get Manny Ramirez as a straight waiver claim

Olney @ ESPN via DSD:

According to Buster Olney of ESPN, Ramirez is still owed $5 million this season and the Chicago White Sox could feasibly get Ramirez simply as a straight waiver claim and with no need to send prospects in return.

Olney also speculates that the Tampa Bay Rays, New York Yankees, or the Texas Rangers could all take a gamble on Ramirez. It’s also possible that Ramirez could go through the waiver wire unclaimed and then the Dodgers could trade him and, in doing so, agree to pick up a portion of his remaining salary.

Kenny shouldn’t have listened to Ozzie and his crazy DH theory, and keep Jim Thome. We’d have a proper DH, and not this Mark Kotsay nonsense, and for the entire season. Furthermore, Big Jim wouldn’t be contributing a .268/.387/.578/.966 hitting line to the Twinkies.

UPDATE: Rosenthal @ FOXS:

Left fielder Manny Ramirez…would be risky for a team to claim; the Dodgers likely would let him go, assuming that Ramirez was willing to waive his no-trade clause. The claiming club then would assume the pro-rated portion of his $20 million salary, which on Aug. 31 still would be more then $3 million.

The deferrals in Ramirez’s contract would make no difference in the amount his new club would pay; only the timetable might be affected. Ramirez’s contract stipulates a $5 million salary this season and deferred payments without interest of $3.33 million each on June 30, 2011 and ’12 and $8.33 million on June 30, 2013.

If Ramirez cleared waivers, he would be eligible to be traded to any team — and he would be wise to waive his no-trade clause for an American League club that would allow him to serve as a DH and build his value for free agency this off-season.

Ramirez, recovering from a right calf strain, could begin a rehabilitation assignment this week. The Dodgers cannot place him on waivers until after they activate him from the disabled list.

July 31, 2010

Kenny Williams explains his attempt to land Manny Ramirez

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 31, 2010 8:05 pm
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Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti spoke in generalities of how the White Sox contacted him on Friday about the mercurial outfielder.

“We got a call from one club, and they offered us a very low dollar figure with no player attached to it,” Colletti said. “We didn’t start it and we didn’t float his name. One team came forward, and I’m not sure what they were trying to accomplish.”

That explanation was provided by Williams on Saturday.

Impact players were the target for the White Sox, players who could move them up a notch in competing for a World Series title. Ramirez didn’t work out, nor did the other pursuits, but Williams will move forward from a position of strength.

“All I can say is, if we felt there were any impact players on the market, we were going to go after them,” Williams said. “We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy.

“I’ll be honest. I was really optimistic on a couple of fronts that we would be able to add to this team without subtracting anything and unfortunately everything that presented itself over the last number of weeks, with the exception of the Edwin Jackson thing, just didn’t. It was destructive to what we were trying to do as a ballclub and it would have taken too much from what’s already on the field.”

with the exception of the Edwin Jackson thing? why, didn’t ‘the Edwin Jackson thing’ subtract something?

White Sox trying to get Manny Ramirez – UPDATE #3

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 31, 2010 1:15 pm
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Rosenthal (FS):

The White Sox, frustrated by their inability to land Adam Dunn, made a run at Dodgers left fielder Manny Ramirez on Friday, but their overtures were rejected, major-league sources say. …  The White Sox wanted the Dodgers to pay all but $1 million of Ramirez’s remaining salary and did not offer a player in return, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions. … The Dodgers could keep Ramirez for the same reason, but sources say they are frustrated by his lack of reliability; this is his third trip to the DL this season.


Though the Sox were rejected, Manny makes for an interesting DH target for multiple teams.  Ramirez is having a strong year statistically, but he was otherworldly after the ’08 trade to the Dodgers.  Obstacles abound: Manny has a full no-trade clause, he’s on a rehab assignment for a calf strain, and he has over $7MM remaining on his contract (much of it deferred).  The contract makes Ramirez an August trade candidate, if the Dodgers feel they can spare him.

UPDATE: Rosenthal (FS):

It’s a halfcourt shot, but it’s still in the air: Source says White Sox intend to make one more run at Manny today.

Brown (Yahoo):

Manny market heating up. Sources: Three teams have called Dodgers about him — White Sox, Rays and mystery club. Dodgers are considering.

UPDATE #2: Heyman (SI):

manny appears amenable to going to the chisox. but the dodgers want big prospects back.

Heyman (SI):

dodgers asked chisox for [dayan] viciedo for manny

UPDATE #3: Multiple sources say it seems to be over:

Heyman (SI):

chisox, dodgers far apart on manny. doesnt look likely.

Nightengale (USAT):

The White Sox have yet to even hear a counter-offer from Dodgers on Manny, let alone engage in talks. WS moving on.

Cowley (CST):

Manny deal is dead, and now you can bury it next to the Dunn deal, which was taken off life support yesterday … mouth-to-mouth anyone?

April 27, 2010

Ex-Sox prospect John Ely to be promoted to the majors?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox,MLB — The Wizard @ April 27, 2010 3:20 pm
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Will the Dodgers promote John Ely to take the place of injured Vincente Padilla in their pitching rotation?

Padilla’s spot in the rotation comes up on Wednesday for the first time since he was shelved. The Dodgers are expected to purchase the contract of right-hander John Ely, whom they acquired from the Chicago White Sox in the Juan Pierre trade last December. Ely, who is 2-1 with a 3.00 ERA in three starts for the Isotopes, will be making his major league debut.

Ely’s stats: First Inning, Minor League Splits

Ely’s dream was to make the Sox (he developed a cutter too) . Here’s his FutureSox scouting report.

UPDATE: Quotes from Ely:

“I can’t believe it,” Ely said via phone from Omaha. “I’m going to try and zone in and not look up (when he first toes the rubber). I’m sure I’m going to be nervous. If you’re not nervous, you better find a new profession. But I’ll be able to handle it.”

and on the trade:

“The trade has worked out real well,” Ely said. “I had a solid spring. I’ve thrown the ball well at Albuquerque. I know some of the guys in the Mets lineup. I’ll figure out a way to attack them.”

December 18, 2009

Sox complete Pierre trade; send Ely and Link to the Dodgers

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ December 18, 2009 1:48 pm
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The Dodgers on Friday received right-handed pitchers John Ely and Jon Link from the Chicago White Sox to complete Tuesday’s Juan Pierre trade. …

December 15, 2009

FutureSox looks at the prospects in the Pierre trade (Ely & Link)

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ December 15, 2009 8:44 pm
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We project Ely as a 5th starter type, but if you listen to Phil Rogers he is worth more than Pierre by himself. Ely had a great season, playing in the Southern League All-Star Game, earning a place on the league’s post-season all-star team and recently being named to our All-FutureSox team. Sure, performance isn’t everything in the minors and Ely doesn’t have top tier stuff as even Rogers admits. He has a great changeup, good control and his fastball and curve are decent pitches. He was a 3rd round pick in 2007 so clearly the Sox liked him then. This year was a bit of a breakout year for him, but his peripherals were slightly down from 2008 and he played in a pitchers’ park. …

December 7, 2009

Sox interested in Juan Pierre

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ December 7, 2009 7:52 pm
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Please no:

The Sox and Juan Pierre … again? Don’t laugh. The holdup on those talks, however, is the well-publicized divorce involving Dodgers owner Frank McCourt, especially because the Sox would want Los Angeles to pick up a good amount of Pierre’s $18.5 million he’s owed the next two seasons.

Stats: B-R, FG.

UPDATE: Jim looks at Juan Pierre and sees Scott Podsednik.

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