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July 27, 2011

White Sox trade Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen to Toronto for reliever Jason Frasor and pitching prospect Zach Stewart

Merkin @ CWS:

The White Sox and Blue Jays completed a trade Wednesday that sent Chicago starter Edwin Jackson and third baseman Mark Teahen to Toronto in exchange for reliever Jason Frasor and pitching prospect Zach Stewart. …

Let’s see what B-R says for the 2 guys that came back. For Jason Frasor:

Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
1999 21 DET-min A-,A 5 4 .556 1.96 16 15 0 1 1 0 82.2 53 26 18 5 31 0 102 3 5 3 326 1.016 5.8 0.5 3.4 11.1 3.29 ONE,WMI · NYPL,MIDW
2000 22 DET-min A 5 3 .625 3.28 14 14 0 0 0 0 71.1 55 32 26 2 29 0 65 4 1 5 300 1.178 6.9 0.3 3.7 8.2 2.24 WMI · MIDW
2002 24 DET-min A+ 5 6 .455 3.54 24 24 0 0 0 0 117.0 112 54 46 10 46 1 87 8 2 2 494 1.350 8.6 0.8 3.5 6.7 1.89 LAK · FLOR
2003 25 LAD-min AA,A+ 2 0 1.000 2.51 50 0 41 0 0 23 61.0 49 21 17 2 18 0 86 1 1 1 248 1.098 7.2 0.3 2.7 12.7 4.78 JCK,VRO · SOUL,FLOR
2004 26 TOR-min AAA 0 0 2.25 3 0 2 0 0 0 4.0 1 1 1 0 5 0 6 0 0 0 18 1.500 2.2 0.0 11.2 13.5 1.20 SYR · IL
2004 26 TOR AL 4 6 .400 4.08 63 0 37 0 0 17 68.1 64 31 31 4 36 3 54 2 2 4 299 119 1.463 8.4 0.5 4.7 7.1 1.50
2005 27 TOR AL 3 5 .375 3.25 67 0 12 0 0 1 74.2 67 31 27 8 28 2 62 3 0 1 305 137 1.272 8.1 1.0 3.4 7.5 2.21
2006 28 TOR-min AAA 3 1 .750 3.98 18 0 6 0 0 1 20.1 21 10 9 1 13 0 33 0 0 3 92 1.672 9.3 0.4 5.8 14.6 2.54 SYR · IL
2006 28 TOR AL 3 2 .600 4.32 51 0 12 0 0 0 50.0 47 24 24 8 17 1 51 2 0 3 215 106 1.280 8.5 1.4 3.1 9.2 3.00
2007 29 TOR AL 1 5 .167 4.58 51 0 18 0 0 3 57.0 47 29 29 3 23 1 59 2 1 2 242 98 1.228 7.4 0.5 3.6 9.3 2.57
2008 30 TOR AL 1 2 .333 4.18 49 0 21 0 0 0 47.1 36 23 22 4 32 4 42 1 0 6 208 102 1.437 6.8 0.8 6.1 8.0 1.31
2009 31 TOR AL 7 3 .700 2.50 61 0 36 0 0 11 57.2 43 17 16 4 16 3 56 2 0 2 227 178 1.023 6.7 0.6 2.5 8.7 3.50
2010 32 TOR AL 3 4 .429 3.68 69 0 18 0 0 4 63.2 61 30 26 4 27 6 65 4 0 5 279 114 1.382 8.6 0.6 3.8 9.2 2.41
2011 33 TOR AL 2 1 .667 2.98 44 0 6 0 0 0 42.1 38 15 14 4 15 1 37 2 0 2 178 137 1.252 8.1 0.9 3.2 7.9 2.47
8 Seasons 24 28 .462 3.69 455 0 160 0 0 36 461.0 403 200 189 39 194 21 426 18 3 25 1953 120 1.295 7.9 0.8 3.8 8.3 2.20
162 Game Avg. 4 4 .462 3.69 68 0 24 0 0 5 69 60 30 28 6 29 3 64 3 0 4 292 120 1.295 7.9 0.8 3.8 8.3 2.20
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 7/27/2011.

and Zach Stewart:

Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2008 21 2 Teams 2 Lgs A+-A CIN 1 4 .200 1.09 24 0 21 0 0 5 33.0 26 7 4 0 14 2 36 2 0 0 136 1.212 7.1 0.0 3.8 9.8 2.57
2008 21 Dayton MIDW A CIN 1 2 .333 0.55 11 0 10 0 0 3 16.1 10 2 1 0 3 0 13 1 0 0 61 0.796 5.5 0.0 1.7 7.2 4.33
2008 21 Sarasota FLOR A+ CIN 0 2 .000 1.62 13 0 11 0 0 2 16.2 16 5 3 0 11 2 23 1 0 0 75 1.620 8.6 0.0 5.9 12.4 2.09
2009 22 4 Teams 4 Lgs A+-AA-AAA TOR,CIN 4 1 .800 1.89 34 14 7 1 0 2 105.0 105 34 22 3 32 0 93 2 0 4 439 1.305 9.0 0.3 2.7 8.0 2.91
2009 22 Sarasota FLOR A+ CIN 1 1 .500 2.13 7 7 0 1 0 0 42.1 47 17 10 1 8 0 32 1 0 1 177 1.299 10.0 0.2 1.7 6.8 4.00
2009 22 Carolina SOUL AA CIN 3 0 1.000 1.46 7 7 0 0 0 0 37.0 29 7 6 1 10 0 31 1 0 1 145 1.054 7.1 0.2 2.4 7.5 3.10
2009 22 Las Vegas PCL AAA TOR 0 0 3.38 11 0 3 0 0 0 13.1 18 8 5 1 6 0 14 0 0 1 62 1.800 12.2 0.7 4.0 9.4 2.33
2009 22 Louisville IL AAA CIN 0 0 0.73 9 0 4 0 0 2 12.1 11 2 1 0 8 0 16 0 0 1 55 1.541 8.0 0.0 5.8 11.7 2.00
2010 23 New Hampshire EL AA TOR 8 3 .727 3.63 26 26 0 0 0 0 136.1 131 59 55 13 54 0 106 5 2 5 575 1.357 8.6 0.9 3.6 7.0 1.96
2011 24 New Hampshire EL AA TOR 5 5 .500 4.20 16 16 0 1 0 0 94.1 106 49 44 6 27 0 74 1 1 3 403 1.410 10.1 0.6 2.6 7.1 2.74
4 Seasons 18 13 .581 3.05 100 56 28 2 0 7 368.2 368 149 125 22 127 2 309 10 3 12 1553 1.343 9.0 0.5 3.1 7.5 2.43
AA (3 seasons) AA 16 8 .667 3.53 49 49 0 1 0 0 267.2 266 115 105 20 91 0 211 7 3 9 1123 1.334 8.9 0.7 3.1 7.1 2.32
AAA (1 season) AAA 0 0 2.10 20 0 7 0 0 2 25.2 29 10 6 1 14 0 30 0 0 2 117 1.675 10.2 0.4 4.9 10.5 2.14
A+ (2 seasons) A+ 1 3 .250 1.98 20 7 11 1 0 2 59.0 63 22 13 1 19 2 55 2 0 1 252 1.390 9.6 0.2 2.9 8.4 2.89
A (1 season) A 1 2 .333 0.55 11 0 10 0 0 3 16.1 10 2 1 0 3 0 13 1 0 0 61 0.796 5.5 0.0 1.7 7.2 4.33
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 7/27/2011.

I see Toronto trade Edwin Jackson and some relievers to St. Louis for Colby Rasmus. And not any good relievers. I’d prefer getting Rasmus to getting Frasor/Stewart. Yes, Rasmus has his negatives but it would have been a better return than Frasor/Stewart.

July 25, 2011

New York Yankees interested in Matt Thornton?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 25, 2011 11:56 pm
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ESPN:

A major league source said Monday that the Yankees have interest in White Sox left-hander Matt Thornton if Williams starts making moves. Thornton was also said to be of interest to the St. Louis Cardinals in a report on the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

and Gonzales @ CT:

A major league source said the Cardinals remain interested in [Edwin] Jackson, and [Colby] Rasmus is receiving interest from two American League East teams.

UPDATE: Other White Sox links: Mike looks at the Edwin Jackson/Matt Thornton for Colby Rasmus trade rumor, James recaps the past week and comments on many more things, J.J. looks at some spring training game-worn jerseys, and Brett Ballantini calculates the Sox player values for the past 10 days.

Kenny Williams talks about the Colby Rasmus rumors and more

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 25, 2011 10:15 pm
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Reifert @ ITWS:

Q:  On the Colby Rasmus rumors:

A: “I’m not going to get into who we’re talking to or what sort of deals are out there for us, but that, as reported, is incorrect.  Here’s the deal: you can virtually speak to most of the teams with impact players at any given time where there’s any kind of trade talk, and you can put us in a room because we are constantly, aggressively asking how we can acquire an impact player to help our situation.  It’s easy to get it wrong, too.  Generally, the things you’re hearing in public too loudly, don’t usually happen for us.  Seems like the things that we’re able to get done, we get done and make the announcement.”

Brett Ballantini tweets the translation:

Ken Williams translation key: When KW adds the “as reported” into his denials, the mettle of the rumor is true.

Maybe the Thornton part is incorrect? :-)

UPDATE: Video from CSN (1:46).

July 24, 2011

Edwin Jackson and Matt Thornton plus minor leaguers to St. Louis for Colby Rasmus?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 24, 2011 3:00 pm
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Strauss @ SPD:

Publicly insistent that they are not seeking a destination for center fielder Colby Rasmus, the Cardinals have made the struggling 24-year-old talent available for the right deal with the Chicago White Sox, according to several sources familiar with the situation.

… Negotiations with White Sox general manager Kenny Williams have accelerated in recent days, according to sources, with the Sox able to dangle pending free agent pitcher Edwin Jackson or high-salary lefthanded reliever Matt Thornton.

Talks also hinge on minor-league or cost-controlled talent the White Sox could include in a deal and, according to a source, a third team may be sought to facilitate a trade.

Dammit Kenny. That’s too much. Rasmus had a good year last year due to a high-BABIP. He hit .276/.361/.498/.859 with a .356 BABIP. He had the 7th highest BABIP-xBABIP difference in baseball (chart)! This year when his BABIP is down to a normal .286, his batting line is down to .241/.327/.402/.730. And why give away Thornton too and weaken the bullpen? When Chris Sale goes to the rotation next year, the bullpen will be 2 lefties down. And I don’t see any good, not even adequate, lefties in the minors (starters or relievers).

UPDATE: Oh, I forgot Hector Santiago and his new screwball. He MIGHT be an option.

BTW,

October 30, 2010

Kenny Williams would trade Carlos Quentin+ for Colby Rasmus [UPDATE]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ October 30, 2010 3:10 am
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Cowley @ CST:

According to a major-league scout [Kenny] Williams has targeted talented but headline-making Colby Rasmus of the St.Louis Cardinals and is willing to part with a package that includes outfielder Carlos Quentin.

”It was obvious that [the Cardinals] were paying extra attention to Quentin at the end of the season, so this might have been something that was already talked about,” the scout said.

Yeah, I would too but St. Louis has to agree and I don’t think they will. Just because the White Sox gave away Nick Swisher for a bucket of balls a substandard return, doesn’t mean the Cardinals will do the same.

UPDATE: A second look at Rasmus’ stats raises some red flags: a 32% K%, and a .354 BABIP (and a -9 UZR/150) in 2010. Jeffrey Gross at THT calculates Rasmus’ xBABIP at .315 so there is a 39 point difference between Rasmus BABIP and xBABIP. In fact, Rasmus had the 7th higher BABIP-xBABIP in MLB.

The K% and the high BABIP don’t look good.

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