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July 30, 2010

Was Kenny Williams duped by Washington GM Mike Rizzo? [UPDATE #2]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 8:45 pm
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Gregor @ DH:

But KW also sounded like he’s been duped _ likely by Washington Nationals GM Mike Rizzo _ in talks for Adam Dunn. While he didn’t mention any specific names, Kenny said it’s been “frustrating” dealing with newer GMs, of which Rizzo is one. He also mentioned “playing games” and “being above board,” so you pretty much get the picture. I’m hearing that Rizzo has taken Dunn off the market, but who really knows? These have been the most unusual days leading up to the trade deadline I ever can remember, by far. But I’m thinking the original plan was for the Sox to acquire Jackson and send him to the Nats for Dunn.

I don’t know if Kenny was duped, I know that Kenny made a crappy trade.

UPDATE: HardballTalk:

According to Olney, the Nationals had told teams interested in Adam Dunn that a “key piece” to get a deal done was Edwin Jackson. This forced teams to try to pry Jackson away from the Diamondbacks. Of course, just before 1pm EST today, the White Sox acquired Jackson from the D-Backs in exchange for right-hander Daniel Hudson and left-hander David Holmberg. Now, according to Olney, the Nationals are indicating that they don’t want Jackson.

If this what Kenny complained about, the fault is his. You don’t trust anyone, especially one you haven’t done business with before, Kenny.

UPDATE #2: From Peter Gammons’ WEEI appearance:

Q: Where does all this [trade rumors] come from?

A: A lot of times people like to guess. I think agents like to throw it out there. For instance, one of the things I found curious of this whole notion if the White Sox can get Edwin Jackson from Arizona, then they can get Adam Dunn from Washington. It never made any sense to me. I think that is very agent-driven, in that the same people I see writing about this get it from the same place. I know that I talked to [Nationals GM] Mike Rizzo, and he said, I don’t want Edwin Jackson, he makes $8 million next season and he has a 5.00 ERA. He said, “I have four pitchers I know are going to be in my rotation next year, why would I spend $8 million on a fifth starter and trade Adam Dunn, who I might be able to sign. It just doesn’t make sense, but it gets thrown out there a lot. Colorado has clearly made certain guys available: Aaron Cook, [Joe] Beimel, who’s been OK at times. Some of it makes a lot of sense, but the fact is we have so many media outlets. I find it a lot of fun, but it can also drive you crazy trying to chase them all down.

Adam Dunn denies he was told he won’t be traded to the White Sox

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 8:37 pm
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And he’s willing to play DH for the rest of the season.

Kilgore @ Washington Post:

Reports this afternoon said Dunn had been told he wouldn’t be sent to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson, and Dunn shot them down. “No,” Dunn said. “I haven’t heard anything.” (Dunn allowed, about the White Sox, “I like their uniforms.”)

Dunn clarified several meaningful details surrounding his situation Dunn has stated his opposition to serving as a full-time designated hitter, but he said he would not mind for the final portion of the season if he is sent to an American League team.

“That’s just Dhing for two months,” Dunn said. “It’s not like if I make this move, it’s career-ending.”

Lance Berkman vetoed a trade to the White Sox

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 8:09 pm
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Nightengale (USAT):

Curiously, Lance Berkman had recently exercised his no-trade rights for possible deal with White Sox before accepting Yankees’ trade.

“if Adam Dunn’s going anywhere, it would probably be to the Yankees.”

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 3:24 pm
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Peter Gammons via WEEI:

As for the Yankees, Gammons said a fear existed in the AL East that New York could make the biggest splash on Saturday.

“The Tampa Bay people are absolutely convinced that one way or another there’s going to be a huge deal with the Yankees and they’re going to end up with Adam Dunn. I don’t know if it will or not, but I would say if Adam Dunn’s going anywhere, it would probably be to the Yankees.

Not good.

UPDATE: Jim Bowden (MLB/FOX):

Tim Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson

Washington “not that hot” on Edwin Jackson [UPDATE #3]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 2:51 pm
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Gammons (MLB):

Nats not that hot for Edwin jackson

Please tell me the Sox weren’t fleeced again: Linebrink, Swisher II, Teahen…

UPDATE: Good News: Ballantini (CSN):

Jackson is merely the most crucial piece to securing Adam Dunn…The big fella is on his way to Chicago, friends. Waiting on Nats sign-off.

Bad News: Rosenthal (FS):

Rival exec still believes Yankees are in heavy on Dunn. Their “we’re out” message was directed at Nationals: Quit messing around!

UPDATE #2: WSCR AM670 says Washington isn’t trading Dunn.

UPDATE #3: Padilla @ ESPN:

reports indicate that last-place Washington doesn’t want anything to do with Jackson.

White Sox after RHP Brett Myers? [UPDATE]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 1:11 pm
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Nightengale (USAT):

white sox Sox GM Kenny Williams, the king of the trade deadline, is quietly exploring possibility of acquring Brett Myers from Astros

Fangraphs on Myers: 113 K / 42 BB, 3.10 ERA, 3.52 FIP, 3.78 xFIP, 2.8 WAR, 49.8% GB%, .294 BABIP, 7.01 K/9, 2.61 BB/9, 0.74 HR/9

Contract:

  • 1 year/$5.1M (2010), plus 2011 mutual option
    • 10:$3.1M, 11:$8M mutual option ($2M buyout)

Getting Myers, unlike Edwin Jackson, makes sense. And it has JJ’s approval!

UPDATE: Nightengale (USAT):

White Sox have Edwin Jackson included in current trade package for Dunn. If Sox get Dunn, then will try to land Astros’ Brett Myers

That would fix things.

Tonight’s White Sox starting pitcher: Lucas Harrell

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 1:08 pm
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whitesox.com:

Prior to tonight’s game vs. Oakland, the Chicago White Sox recalled right-handed pitcher Lucas Harrell from Class AAA Charlotte. Harrell, who will wear uniform No. 58, will make his major-league debut tonight in a start against the Athletics.

Harrell, 25, is 9-9 with a 4.24 ERA (56 ER/119.0 IP) and 73 strikeouts in 22 starts with Charlotte this season. The 6-foot-2, 200 pounder has allowed a .256 (114-445) opponents average with 53 walks.

Harrell is 42-37 with a 3.79 ERA (258 ER/613.1 IP) and 404 strikeouts in 121 games (115 starts) over seven seasons in the White Sox minor-league system. His best season came in 2009 when he went 12-4 with a 3.27 ERA (53 ER/146.0 IP) in 25 starts between Class AA Birmingham and Charlotte.

Harrell originally was selected by the Sox in the fourth round of the 2004 First-Year Player Draft.

Harrell’s stats: Not good.

White Sox interested in 1B Lance Berkman?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 12:54 pm
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Price (Fanhouse):

There is buzz about the White Sox going for Astros Lance Berkman. He has .874 OPS vs RHP.

UPDATE: erik calculates the trade value of lance berkman (brad hawpe too)

BTB and Fangraphs on the Dan Hudson-Edwin Jackson trade

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 12:25 pm
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Price @ BTB:

Jackson’s inconsistency and lack of command will always hold him back, it seems. But right now he’s flashing a strong 51% groundball rate along with good whiff and contact rates, so there’s a lot to like about Jackson beyond one of the hardest fastballs among starters in all of baseball.

Jackson gives the White Sox a small upgrade over Hudson through 2011, although I’m not convinced that it’s enough to forfeit Hudson’s extra years of team control. ZiPS projects Hudson to put up a 4.06 FIP for the rest of the season, compared to a 4.16 FIP for Jackson. I think that alone says a lot about how close these guys are in terms of performance. And when one guy is owed about $10M through 2011 before hitting free agency and the other guy isn’t even arbitration-eligible yet, I think you need a lot more than a slight upgrade to justify making that kind of deal.

I don’t really like this deal for the White Sox. Holmberg’s nothing special, really, but I’m not really convinced that Jackson is some sort of big upgrade on Hudson. It just feels like the White Sox just committed to spending around $10M through 2011 on a pitcher that’s not much better than the one he’s replacing. …

Sanders @ FG:

Kenny Williams likes to deal, but this is not one of his better ones. One may expect the price for Jackson to be lower than what the White Sox paid, given what the returns were for superior pitchers in Roy Oswalt and Dan Haren. Instead of keeping Hudson and letting him fill the rotation spot that Jake Peavy vacated, the White Sox decided to go out and fill it with a more expensive source. While Jackson probably won’t be enough by himself to change the direction of the White Sox’s season, he is a good piece for this year and beyond. All that remains to be seen is if he will stay a White Sox for long.

More: HardballTalk, BaseballAmerica, FutureSox, SoxNet, Marchman

White Sox trade RHP Dan Hudson and LHP David Holmberg for RHP Edwin Jackson

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 12:06 pm
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whitesox.com:

The D-backs on Friday traded right-hander Edwin Jackson to the White Sox in exchange for right-hander Daniel Hudson and Minor League left-hander David Holmberg.

WTF Kenny?

NBC’s Craig Calceterra:

Personally, I’d rather have Daniel Hudson, who is young and team-controlled for years, than Edwin Jackson who is only team-controlled through next season and isn’t, you know, all that good.

Well said Craig. Well said…

UPDATE: Nightengale (USAT):

If deal gets done, the White Sox would send Daniel Hudson and prospect for Jackson,and take on Jackson’s entire $8.75 million salary

Gonzales (Trib):

The  White Sox reportedly will pay the remainder of Jackson’s $4.2 million salary this year and all of the $8.35 next year.

Edwin Jackson told he’s traded to the Sox?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 11:58 am
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Brown (Yahoo):

Edwin Jackson has been told he’s been traded to the White Sox. Flip to DC next?

This is so freakin dumb…

White Sox interested in Edwin Jackson?

Rosenthal (FS):

The White Sox, frustrated by their inability to acquire Nationals first baseman Adam Dunn, instead are on the verge of ending up with one of the Nationals’ leading targets: Diamondbacks right-hander Edwin Jackson.

The Sox are in serious discussions about a trade in which they would obtain Jackson for rookie right-hander Daniel Hudson and a prospect, according to major-league sources.

… While the White Sox coveted Dunn, they shifted their focus to a starting pitcher after growing discouraged about their chances of completing a trade with the Nationals, sources say.

Fangraphs on Edwin Jackson: 104 K / 60 BB, 5.16 ERA, 4.27 FIP, 4.28 xFIP, 1.9 WAR, 50.5% GB%, .318 BABIP, 6.97 K/9, 4.02 BB/9

Contract:

  • 2 years/$13.35M (2010-11)
    • $0.8M signing bonus
    • 10:$4.2M, 11:$8.35M

The numbers and the money say to me he’s not worth Hudson alone.

UPDATE: Rosenthal says it’s up to the Nationals what do the Sox do with Jackson, ie. send him to the Nationals for Adam Dunn or keeping him (ugh).

Frank Thomas on being a White Sox ambassador (video)

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 2:08 am
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Big Hurt TV Video: http://www.csnchicago.com/07/29/10/Big-Hurt-TV-How-Frank-can-make-a-good-am/landing.html?blockID=280068&feedID=621 (4:43)

Big Frank says one of his things should be bringing him in when players are in a slump and he’ll get under their skin, irritate them and get them hitting.

And Bill Melton says being an ambassador can be what the ambassador wants. So, he can do the hitting slump thing.

Get on it Frank!

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