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February 12, 2010

B-R on Big Frank

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ February 12, 2010 6:42 pm
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Andy:

It’s very common to talk about players’ careers and wonder “how much better would he have been if he could just have stayed healthy?” Thomas is one of those cases, since after his age 32 season he managed only 3 more years with at least 140 games and had 4 full seasons with fewer than 80 games. However, there’s more to it than just the games. After missing almost all of 2001 he had a good-by-anybody-else’s-standards 2002 with 28 HR, 92 RBI, and a 118 OPS+. People wondered if he was done. Then in 2003 he roared back with 42 HR, 105 RBI, and a 146 OPS+.  After two more lost years in 2004 and 2005 he came back from injury in 2006 and posted 39 HR, 114 RBI, and a 140 OPS+ in 137 games with Oakland (at age 38!) My point is that the guy twice came back from major injury layoffs to post huge seasons, which really lends credence to the idea that if he had been healthier he had a good shot to post some really big career totals. He might have played 300 more games and realistically could have had 70 more HR, which would have put him close to 600 career bombs. …

Frank ‘The Big Hurt’ Thomas in his football days

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ February 12, 2010 6:23 pm
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Frank Thomas poses for a portrait at Auburn University in 1987 (Tribune).

“An Ode to The Big Hurt”

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ February 12, 2010 3:27 pm
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Price:

Yesterday came the unsurprising news that Frank Thomas is calling it a career, although that’s really only a technicality as Thomas last played with Oakland and Toronto during the 2008 season. As a young Chicagoan who grew up watching Thomas, I never quite grasped his brilliance as youngin’ , but I do have memories of his monster 2000 season, when he posted a .439 wOBA with 43 HR, 44 2B, a .328 batting average and 143 RBI. It was sad to see him leave Chicago on a relatively negative note, but it’s likely that he’ll go down as the greatest hitter to ever call Chicago his home. …

“Frank Thomas is the most underrated hitter ever”

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ February 12, 2010 2:21 pm
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Aaron Gleeman:

Because of what has happened to power numbers and power hitters during the past decade or so Thomas is often talked about as just another great slugger from this era, but that misses the boat in a big way. Albert Pujols is the best player in baseball and surely everyone would agree that at 29 years old he’s on track to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, but look at his numbers compared to Thomas’ stats at the same age:

               G       PA      AVG      OBP      SLG     OPS+
Pujols      1399     6082     .334     .427     .628     172
Thomas      1076     4789     .330     .452     .600     182

Pujols has hit .334 with a 1.055 OPS, whereas Thomas hit .330 with a 1.052 OPS through the age of 29. Plus, Thomas’ twenties came in a slightly lower-scoring era, which is why his adjusted OPS+ of 182 tops Pujols at 172. Pujols has three MVPs and one batting title while thrice leading the league in OPS. Before his 30th birthday Thomas had two MVPs and one batting title while leading the league in OPS four times. …

Sox to retire Frank Thomas’ #35 on August 29

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ February 12, 2010 12:18 pm
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whitesox.com:

Frank Thomas, who officially announced his retirement on Thursday night, will have his No. 35 retired during an on-field ceremony on Aug. 29, when the White Sox celebrate “Frank Thomas Day” as they host the Yankees at 1:05 p.m. CT.

… Along with Hall of Famers Mel Ott, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, Thomas is one of just four players in baseball history to have a .300 average with 500 home runs, 1,500 RBIs, 1,000 runs scored and 1,500 walks in his career. He is a four-time Silver Slugger Award winner (1991, 1993, 1994, 2000), and he was named the 2000 AL Comeback Player of the Year.

9 others have been retired:

Thomas becomes the 10th player to have his number retired by the White Sox. His No. 35 joins Nos. 2 (Nellie Fox), 3 (Harold Baines), 4 (Luke Appling), 9 (Minnie Minoso), 11 (Luis Aparicio, though it has been un-retired for the 2010 season for veteran shortstop Omar Vizquel), 16 (Ted Lyons), 19 (Billy Pierce), 42 (Jackie Robinson) and 72 (Carlton Fisk).

Reifert has pics and vids from Frank’s press conference on his tweeter feed.

February 11, 2010

Frank Thomas is retiring

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ February 11, 2010 6:36 pm
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Merkin:

The Big Hurt is calling it a career.

Longtime White Sox star slugger Frank Thomas, who is tied for 18th on the all-time Major League home run list with 521, told MLB.com on Thursday evening that he is officially retiring.

A press conference is expected to be scheduled for Friday morning in Chicago.

UPDATE: Ozzie Guillen has decided to retire too.

UPDATE #2: CSN’s Patrick Mooney has a lot more on Big Frank.

UPDATE #3: Thomas isn’t interested in coaching for now.

January 29, 2010

Waiting for Big Frank

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ January 29, 2010 11:36 am
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Rozner:

They’d like to know when or if Thomas will return to have his day, get his number retired and visit his statue.

And it’s really all up to Thomas now.

“The door is open,” said White Sox GM Ken Williams. “It’s pretty much in his court as far as what he wants to do.”

Despite his conflicts with Thomas in the past, Williams said it’s all forgotten, and he was in favor of Thomas returning last year so that he could retire in a Sox uniform.

“If he felt like the time was right to come back for a day and retire with this uniform, I think everyone here wants that to happen,” Williams said of Thomas, who hasn’t played since August 2008. “I don’t know that we’d want it to be an official appearance, because then you’d have to restart the clock on his Hall of Fame status.” …

January 8, 2010

Is Frank Thomas a Hall of Famer?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ January 8, 2010 8:09 pm
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Joe Poz:

Are you kidding? Frank Thomas’ first full seven years — .330/.452/.604 with OPS+ of 182. I want to repeat that — an OPS+ of ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO. Just as an example …

First seven full years:
Frank Thomas: 182
Mickey Mantle: 181
Albert Pujols: 167
Willie Mays: 164
Barry Bonds: 160
Joe DiMaggio: 159

To give you an idea, Roberto Clemente, Al Kaline, Hank Greenberg, and a 100 other Hall of Famers never ONCE had an OPS+ of 182 in a season. Frank Thomas is one of the best hitters in baseball history.

September 21, 2009

Paul Konerko interview

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ September 21, 2009 1:17 pm
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BP:

Q: How similar are Jim Thome and Frank Thomas as hitters?

A: With the end result, they’re very similar, because they’re both very dangerous guys that can carry a ballclub. They do kind of go about it a little differently. Frank was obviously a right-handed hitter, and his numbers simply don’t lie. And he had really good at-bats. But, you know, that’s a tough question. Their numbers are very similar. They both walk a lot and hit a lot of homers, so… you know, now that I think about it, I guess they’re pretty damn similar. I’ll say this: hitting aside, both of them, with their preparation and how they got ready to play each night, you can see why they’re both future Hall of Famers. They’re people who have done so much in their careers, but even though they’ve hit 500 home runs, and won MVP Awards, and played in All-Star Games, they still approached every game as if they hadn’t done anything. That’s another way in which they’re similar. There was never any complacency. Every time they took the field, they’d get after it as if they were hungry to do more, and that gets you a lot of respect. With what they’ve done in their careers, it would be easy not to do that.

June 25, 2009

Frank Thomas ‘close’ to retirement

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ June 25, 2009 1:55 pm
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ESPN:

Frank Thomas said he’s getting close to announcing his retirement, and the 41-year-old slugger said he’s having fun being a member of the media.

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