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July 30, 2010

Washington “not that hot” on Edwin Jackson [UPDATE #3]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 2:51 pm
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Gammons (MLB):

Nats not that hot for Edwin jackson

Please tell me the Sox weren’t fleeced again: Linebrink, Swisher II, Teahen…

UPDATE: Good News: Ballantini (CSN):

Jackson is merely the most crucial piece to securing Adam Dunn…The big fella is on his way to Chicago, friends. Waiting on Nats sign-off.

Bad News: Rosenthal (FS):

Rival exec still believes Yankees are in heavy on Dunn. Their “we’re out” message was directed at Nationals: Quit messing around!

UPDATE #2: WSCR AM670 says Washington isn’t trading Dunn.

UPDATE #3: Padilla @ ESPN:

reports indicate that last-place Washington doesn’t want anything to do with Jackson.

White Sox after RHP Brett Myers? [UPDATE]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 1:11 pm
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Nightengale (USAT):

white sox Sox GM Kenny Williams, the king of the trade deadline, is quietly exploring possibility of acquring Brett Myers from Astros

Fangraphs on Myers: 113 K / 42 BB, 3.10 ERA, 3.52 FIP, 3.78 xFIP, 2.8 WAR, 49.8% GB%, .294 BABIP, 7.01 K/9, 2.61 BB/9, 0.74 HR/9

Contract:

  • 1 year/$5.1M (2010), plus 2011 mutual option
    • 10:$3.1M, 11:$8M mutual option ($2M buyout)

Getting Myers, unlike Edwin Jackson, makes sense. And it has JJ’s approval!

UPDATE: Nightengale (USAT):

White Sox have Edwin Jackson included in current trade package for Dunn. If Sox get Dunn, then will try to land Astros’ Brett Myers

That would fix things.

BTB and Fangraphs on the Dan Hudson-Edwin Jackson trade

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 12:25 pm
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Price @ BTB:

Jackson’s inconsistency and lack of command will always hold him back, it seems. But right now he’s flashing a strong 51% groundball rate along with good whiff and contact rates, so there’s a lot to like about Jackson beyond one of the hardest fastballs among starters in all of baseball.

Jackson gives the White Sox a small upgrade over Hudson through 2011, although I’m not convinced that it’s enough to forfeit Hudson’s extra years of team control. ZiPS projects Hudson to put up a 4.06 FIP for the rest of the season, compared to a 4.16 FIP for Jackson. I think that alone says a lot about how close these guys are in terms of performance. And when one guy is owed about $10M through 2011 before hitting free agency and the other guy isn’t even arbitration-eligible yet, I think you need a lot more than a slight upgrade to justify making that kind of deal.

I don’t really like this deal for the White Sox. Holmberg’s nothing special, really, but I’m not really convinced that Jackson is some sort of big upgrade on Hudson. It just feels like the White Sox just committed to spending around $10M through 2011 on a pitcher that’s not much better than the one he’s replacing. …

Sanders @ FG:

Kenny Williams likes to deal, but this is not one of his better ones. One may expect the price for Jackson to be lower than what the White Sox paid, given what the returns were for superior pitchers in Roy Oswalt and Dan Haren. Instead of keeping Hudson and letting him fill the rotation spot that Jake Peavy vacated, the White Sox decided to go out and fill it with a more expensive source. While Jackson probably won’t be enough by himself to change the direction of the White Sox’s season, he is a good piece for this year and beyond. All that remains to be seen is if he will stay a White Sox for long.

More: HardballTalk, BaseballAmerica, FutureSox, SoxNet, Marchman

White Sox trade RHP Dan Hudson and LHP David Holmberg for RHP Edwin Jackson

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 12:06 pm
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whitesox.com:

The D-backs on Friday traded right-hander Edwin Jackson to the White Sox in exchange for right-hander Daniel Hudson and Minor League left-hander David Holmberg.

WTF Kenny?

NBC’s Craig Calceterra:

Personally, I’d rather have Daniel Hudson, who is young and team-controlled for years, than Edwin Jackson who is only team-controlled through next season and isn’t, you know, all that good.

Well said Craig. Well said…

UPDATE: Nightengale (USAT):

If deal gets done, the White Sox would send Daniel Hudson and prospect for Jackson,and take on Jackson’s entire $8.75 million salary

Gonzales (Trib):

The  White Sox reportedly will pay the remainder of Jackson’s $4.2 million salary this year and all of the $8.35 next year.

Edwin Jackson told he’s traded to the Sox?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 30, 2010 11:58 am
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Brown (Yahoo):

Edwin Jackson has been told he’s been traded to the White Sox. Flip to DC next?

This is so freakin dumb…

White Sox interested in Edwin Jackson?

Rosenthal (FS):

The White Sox, frustrated by their inability to acquire Nationals first baseman Adam Dunn, instead are on the verge of ending up with one of the Nationals’ leading targets: Diamondbacks right-hander Edwin Jackson.

The Sox are in serious discussions about a trade in which they would obtain Jackson for rookie right-hander Daniel Hudson and a prospect, according to major-league sources.

… While the White Sox coveted Dunn, they shifted their focus to a starting pitcher after growing discouraged about their chances of completing a trade with the Nationals, sources say.

Fangraphs on Edwin Jackson: 104 K / 60 BB, 5.16 ERA, 4.27 FIP, 4.28 xFIP, 1.9 WAR, 50.5% GB%, .318 BABIP, 6.97 K/9, 4.02 BB/9

Contract:

  • 2 years/$13.35M (2010-11)
    • $0.8M signing bonus
    • 10:$4.2M, 11:$8.35M

The numbers and the money say to me he’s not worth Hudson alone.

UPDATE: Rosenthal says it’s up to the Nationals what do the Sox do with Jackson, ie. send him to the Nationals for Adam Dunn or keeping him (ugh).

July 29, 2010

Scouts from Washington and Arizona at today’s White Sox game

Gonzales:

Scouts from Washington and Arizona are here for the fourth consecutive night amid reports that a three-way deal with the Sox involving Adam Dunn is percolating, although a major league source said talks have yet to advanced quickly yet.

White Sox out of the Adam Dunn sweepstakes?

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 29, 2010 3:42 pm
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Buster Olney (ESPN):

Heard this: The White Sox are saying internally that they are currently out of the mix on Dunn.

UPDATE: Jon Heyman (SI) says the Sox are still interested:

dunn derby could be like a damon repeat: white sox vs. tigers. plenty of interest in slugger.

and that 3-way scenarios are alive:

chisox among teams trying for adam dunn. 3-way scenarios with edwin jackson going to nats are in play.

July 26, 2010

WhiteSox.com reminds us team doesn’t have any pitching prospects

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 26, 2010 9:57 pm
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Merkin:

Monday’s latest entry came from ESPN.com, with a brief mention of rumblings involving a three-way deal involving the Nationals, White Sox and D-backs, with Edwin Jackson going to the Nationals, pitching prospects going to the D-backs and the White Sox getting their coveted left-handed run producer in Adam Dunn.

One problem in this particular equation is that the White Sox don’t have any true pitching prospects to deal aside from Daniel Hudson. If the White Sox decide to trade Hudson, the move also leaves them thin in the starting rotation without a corresponding move.

And this team’s ultimate success is predicated on its front five and overall pitching depth. Williams seemed to indicate, without mentioning names specifically, how starting second baseman Gordon Beckham and/or starting right fielder Carlos Quentin won’t be going anywhere.

Of course, time exists for Williams to change his mind. …

Diamondbacks and Nationals scouts at Monday’s White Sox game

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 26, 2010 9:39 pm
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Dyck:

Scouts from the Diamondbacks and Nationals watched Monday’s White Sox game against the Mariners, which would seem to add credence to the rumors of a three-way deal sending Diamondbacks pitcher Edwin Jackson to the Nationals and Adam Dunn to the Sox.

Adam Dunn to CWS, Edwin Jackson to WAS, prospects to ARI? [UPDATE]

Filed under: Chicago White Sox — The Wizard @ July 26, 2010 12:57 pm
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Stark @ ESPN:

The Nationals continue to talk to Adam Dunn’s agents about an extension, and have essentially made it clear that if they can get him to agree to an extension in the next few days, he’ll stay. And if not, he’ll go. Rumblings continue to surface about a possible three-team deal involving the Nationals, White Sox and Diamondbacks that would send Edwin Jackson to Washington, Dunn to Chicago and a bunch of young pitchers to Arizona.

UPDATE: Rosenthal:

Source: Diamondbacks will not hesitate to trade EJax if they get what they want. No 3-way talks with Nationals and White Sox – yet.

Olney:

Heard this: The Nats have made progress in their effort to trade prospects for Edwin Jackson.

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