“(Viciedo) is playing his (butt) off offensively and defensively. But I’m not going to put a player on this team that my manager is not ready for. I respect him too much to do that.
“When you say somebody is ready, that just means they’re ready. That doesn’t mean they can’t get better. He’s a young guy. He’s not a finished product. He’s getting better and better. There is no immediate rush to have him in there. We have faith in all (the current) guys.”
June 29, 2011
June 27, 2011
While my colleagues have attempted to determine the root cause of his issues, I’m more curious as to how frequently someone has cratered in this fashion.Given his level of consistency and the depths to which his numbers have fallen this year, there are two main questions that spring to mind:
1. How frequently do batters experience such a sharp ISO decline from an established level?
2. How frequently do batters strike out more than 40 percent of the time in a full year? …
UPDATE: More on Adam Dunn from David Pinto:
As a follow up to Bill Chuck’s previous post on Adam Dunn of the Chicago White Sox, a reader asked to look at his struggles against lefties. There are two major changes that help account for his poor performance. …
Other White Sox links: J.J. says Viciedo will help but he won’t save the offense, James doesn’t sound very enthusiastic after attending Friday’s game and recaps the past week, Fangraphs’ Eric Seidman says player milestones, like 500 home runs, might not result in hall of fame election, and Steve Stone says the 6-man rotation isn’t good for Gavin Floyd.
And a couple tweets from Brett Ballantini on Dayan Viciedo inside: (more…)
June 25, 2011
“I wish I could say what I think, because I’d be on CNN, the Playboy Channel, everywhere, [if I say] what I really think about this,” Guillen said. “But I’m not going to say it, it’s the first time I’m going to keep it to myself.”
but that is easier said than done:
“I wipe my [expletive] with the critics,” Guillen said emphatically. “I play JP because I think that’s the best guy to help us win. If he’s 0-for-100, you think I don’t know that? But in the meanwhile, when you’re in my spot, when you sit in my chair you will be criticized 99 percent of the time. Because when things are going good, you have good players. When things are going bad, the manager’s [expletive].”
“I’ve said in the past, they want Viciedo here, my door is open, as soon as he’s here I’ll play him every day,” Guillen said. “Now, I make it clear, they gotta make a trade or make a decision to send someone down. I cannot play with a 26 man roster. But as long as JP is here, he’s playing. If people don’t like it….”
If Kenny brings up Dayan Viciedo and doesn’t move Juan Pierre the fireworks will be deafening.
Once Dayan's arb date passes in a week (making him FA-eligible 1 yr later) I expect Dayan will be leaving Charlotte for good, at KW's behest—
Brett Ballantini (@CSNChi_Beatnik) June 25, 2011
UPDATE: Scot Gregor at the Daily Herald speaks to a “source” and says there aren’t any such restrictions:
One source scoffed at the logic, considering Viciedo accumulated only 83 days of major-league service last season and couldn’t become a free agent until amassing the required six years.
… “There is no magic date next week,” the source said Saturday. “I have seen some of the speculation out there, but a lot of it is based upon not having a full understanding of the rules.”
… Had Viciedo played enough to qualify for salary arbitration by the end of the current season — which he hasn’t — the 22-year-old right fielder could have voided the final year (2012) of his deal, giving the Sox the option of triggering a $3.5 million option.
… “A lot of misinformation,” the source said. “He is not a free agent until he gets six years of major-league service like anyone else.”
UPDATE: 1 year of service time is 172 days. 172-83=89. So, about 3 months. Hmmm, this is very close. I don’t know if the conspiracy theory isn’t true. I guess, we’ll see…
June 23, 2011
As some fans continue to wonder when Dayan Viciedo will be called up from Triple-A Charlotte, it was announced on Thursday that he, along with teammate Gregory Infante, will play on the World team and represent the White Sox in this year’s XM All-Star Futures Game at Chase Field in Phoenix.
Viciedo, the White Sox No. 1 prospect per MLB.com, has the International League’s fourth-highest batting average, at .324. The third baseman/outfielder has slugged 11 home runs and is third in the league in RBIs, with 49. He also played in the 2009 Futures Game, going 1-for-2 with an RBI double.
With the White Sox offense struggling to find consistency this season, the question of calling up Viciedo to the Majors has been posed to both general manager Ken Williams and manager Ozzie Guillen, especially over the past couple of weeks. Guillen, however, while acknowledging Viciedo’s success and talent, simply wouldn’t know who to replace on the current 25-man roster to make room for the 22-year-old. …
OF Dayan Viciedo (Cuba) and RHP Gregory Infante (Venezuela), both at Class AAA Charlotte, have been selected to play for the International team in this year’s All-Star Futures Game on Sunday, July 10, at Pheonix’s Chase Field.
The 13th annual Futures Game can be seen live on MLB.TV and ESPN2, and can be followed live on MLB.com’s Gameday. Game time is 5 pm CT.
Current Sox Mark Buehrle, John Danks, Gavin Floyd, Edwin Jackson, Adam Dunn, Brent Lillibridge, Alex Rios and Ramon Castro appeared in the game.
June 21, 2011
“Right now we’re going to hold tight,” Williams said with regard to a Viciedo callup. “Ozzie likes the team that he’s running out there every day. If it turns out he wants a little more offense, change up the mix a little bit, we know we can tap into [Viciedo] at moment’s notice. And he knows he can get him at a moment’s notice if [Guillen] wants to change up the mix.”Note the language there. Guillen remains in Pierre’s camp, refusing to bench him based primarily on his unparalleled work ethic. That devotion is unimpeachable, but at some point All-In has to apply more to the talent on the field than respect for the roster.
It’s increasingly certain Pierre vs. Viciedo is an Ozzie (JP) vs. Kenny (Dayan) battle. KW wants Dayan up; Ozzie is content with team as is
UPDATE: Newer Kenny:
The best player available to Williams right now is Viciedo, who is batting .330 in Triple-A. Williams is letting his coaching staff dictate if or when Viciedo gets called up. For now.
“I think the issue is if I do bring him here it will be to play everyday, and it isn’t until I get that feeling from the coaching staff that he is in fact needed, and they believe that the mix that they are currently sending out there isn’t going to get the job done,” Williams said. “As long as they believe that it’s going to get the job done, then I’ll stick with them and defer to their opinions. If there ever comes a time where I feel strongly enough about making a move of that ilk, then I’ll call them aside and we’ll have a little stronger dialogue, and I’ll see if I can influence some one way or another.”
“Listen, if you are going to play championship baseball you have to be fundamentally sound,” Williams said. “You have to catch the ball, you have to execute. The double plays, the pickoff plays … the running game has to be slowed certainly to a greater degree. We have to get runners in with less than two outs at a greater clip.”
Other White Sox links: J.J. explains how he stopped caring for games against the Cubs, Brett Ballantini looks at the Sox-Cubs history and finds one team has the upper hand, James recaps the past week, the Sox signed 23 of their 50 draft picks, Ozzie Guillen wants the Florida Marlins to win the World Series, and Paul Konerko’s HR tonight gives him a franchise-record 12 seasons with at least 20 HRs.
And a couple funny tweets are inside: (more…)
June 16, 2011
Charlotte Knights Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Peavy 6.0 2 0 0 0 9 0 3.65 Pena, T (H, 1) 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 Whisler (BS, 1)(L, 1-1) 0.0 3 3 3 0 0 1 12.79 Corley 2.0 2 0 0 2 3 0 2.13
Pitches-strikes: Peavy 78-58, Pena, T 7-4, Whisler 16-10, Corley 38-21.
Groundouts-flyouts: Peavy 5-2, Pena, T 1-1, Whisler 0-0, Corley 3-0.
Batters faced: Peavy 20, Pena, T 3, Whisler 3, Corley 10.
Hey, Tony Pena is in Charlotte too. Unlike Peavy, he hasn’t been missed though.
Also, Dayan Viciedo went 3-4 with 2 doubles and a homer. He’s hitting .325/.370/.542/.913 with a 16/44 BB/K ratio in 249 AB. The dude is on fire. Bring him up Kenny!
Pavano needed only 96 pitches.Juan Pierre,Dayan Viciedo,
“You’ve got to tip your hat when he does that,” Pierzynski said.
June 14, 2011
“I’ll do whatever needs to happen and I made that known to (pitching coach Don Cooper) and (manager) Ozzie (Guillen),” Peavy said. “I’ll do whatever they think I can do to help the club in any way. I think they know that.”
“I just think we got five guys going pretty good right now,” Peavy said. “We’ve taken some heat about the six-man rotation. Are we doing the right thing or wrong thing? I’m just letting them know my end of the deal. I’ll do whatever I can do to help.
“Do I think I can pitch out of the bullpen? Absolutely. I think I can help. But I’m certainly not opposed to me being in the six-man rotation, either. We’ll see what happens.”
“If this team gets in the playoffs, this team can certainly win a championship,” Peavy said. “That’s all you can ask. The common goal when we’re on the flights and sitting around, talking with the guys is to grind it out and just try to get in. Do all we can do to get in and give this team a chance because we do feel we have a great chance to win a championship if we do get in.”
and from the link below,
“I love our pitching and I think we’ve been about as steady as we can be,” Peavy said. “Our offense, with [Adam] Dunn getting going and [Alex] Rios starting to show signs, I think we’ve got enough. We certainly have enough talent to win the [American League] Central, but we certainly got our work cut out for us with Detroit, as good as they are, Cleveland and this team [the Twins] and Kansas City. We’ve got a tough division.”
“We did talk to Kenny about it,” Guillen said. “Kenny wasn’t too sure about that. We appreciate but I think it’s too early to concern ourselves about bullpen stuff [with Peavy]. We appreciate that because he wants to help. But right now I think everything was just worry about we put it up to Kenny and he say get him healthy and get him back here. Then we make the decision when he comes [back].”
Other White Sox links: J.J. looks at the implications of a Dayan Viciedo-Juan Pierre swap and has a Sox-Twins Q&A with Aaron Gleeman, James looks at Paul Konerko’ HOF chances and is surprised at the directness of Scott Merkin’s ‘Kenny wants Viciedo’ article, (I was surprised too with Kenny saying out loud I want Viciedo but Ozzie wants Pierre), and Mike wonders if the Sox will re-acquire Aaron Poreda.
June 13, 2011
All White Sox parties agree that Viciedo is a Major Leaguer. The 22-year-old looked prepared offensively in 2010 when he hit .308 over 104 at-bats during his big league callup, but he didn’t really have a definitive defensive position. Now, Viciedo has found a home in the outfield, leaving only a pair of questions to be decided about his future.
How will Viciedo be used with the White Sox? And when will he arrive? During a conversation with MLB.com, general manager Ken Williams seemed strongly inclined to get Viciedo up to the White Sox soon, but definitely not in a reserve capacity.
“It would be awfully interesting to have him in this lineup,” said Williams of the player dubbed “the Cuban Tank.” “He’s ready. He’s obviously got some things he still needs to work on, but I would have no qualms about bringing him here. I’m not going to bring him here to sit. [White Sox manager] Ozzie [Guillen] is not ready to change the mix he has right now, and that has to be respected.”
Adam Dunn is locked in for three more years at designated hitter, and Alex Rios is set in the outfield for another three as well. There are those who believe that Viciedo and Carlos Quentin will become an either/or outfield proposition. Williams is not one of those people.
“That’s going to be the trio of Chicago,” said Viciedo of an outfield including himself, Quentin and Rios, with Quentin potentially moving back to left.
“There are some pretty good hitters in the lineup just mentioned,” Williams said. “Someone else will have to figure out the leadoff spot, if that were something to think about.”
You can force Ozzie’s hand Kenny.
June 1, 2011
… Now playing right field at Triple-A given that Brent Morel has surpassed him on the organization’s third base depth chart, Viciedo’s finally making some key improvements as a hitter. In 49 games this season, Viciedo’s already walked as many times as he did in 124 games last year, and he’s done so while cutting down on his strikeouts as well. It’s easy to forget that he’s just 22, and given the recent improvements in his game it appears that he’s back on track to be a contributor with this club in short order. Whether he’s the short-term replacement for Juan Pierre or the long-term replacement for Paul Konerko, expect [Dayan] Viciedo to find his way into Chicago’s plan pretty soon.
Viciedo is doing everything he can to get himself back to the Cell. After another slow start to the season, the Cuban has been pounding the ball. The best part about his May numbers are the nine walks. It’s still not a great walk rate, or even good for that matter, but it’s passable. Viciedo is notorious for not taking walks so any sort of discipline from him is huge. There’s no question he can hit the ball and hit it hard. The question now is where can the Sox play him to get him regular at-bats? The 22-year-old will have to keep crushing AAA pitching until he gets that call.
May 25, 2011
“Obviously [Tuesday] night he was awesome and he’s had days like that this year where he’s been unbelievable,” hitting coach Greg Walker said. “To me, the only issue so far this year is Carlos being late with the foot down, and we kind of corrected that a week, 10 days ago. Other than having a sore knee one day, he’s really been good ever since.”
Essentially, Walker has worked with Quentin to refine the timing of his swing. If Quentin can stride and get his foot down before the ball arrives, he is in a better position to cover the strike zone. His most impressive home run Tuesday came when he reached out across the plate and slugged a 400-foot-plus shot just inside the foul pole in right field.
“Going the other way is always a good sign for any hitter, especially being able to hit the ball in the gap and drive the ball,” Quentin said. “My push is to always stay up the middle and to the right side and to accomplish that, that’s something good.”
Other White Sox links: J.J. wants the Sox to trade Juan Pierre, move Carlos Quentin to LF, and call up Dayan Viciedo, Brett Ballantini updates his six-man rotation and his most and least valuable Sox players calculations, Satchel Price says Alexei Ramirez is the best shortstop in the AL, and John Sickels’ Prospect of the Day is ex-Sox prospect Fautino de los Santos.
May 22, 2011
Viciedo: .313/.359/.524/.883 with 12 BB and 30 K in 166 AB.
May 18, 2011
The days of Dayan Viciedo as a third baseman seem to have been replaced by this top White Sox prospect moving almost exclusively to the outfield.
“Particularly in right field,” said White Sox general manager Ken Williams. “He is very good out there.”
White Sox Minor League director Buddy Bell and Williams talked about Viciedo two weeks ago and decided to mix him in at first base every now and then for Triple-A Charlotte. Viciedo’s experience at first helps keep the White Sox insulated in case something happens to Adam Dunn or Paul Konerko.
“And if we run into a situation where we need him up here in the big leagues, and let’s say you pinch-run for Adam or Paulie while they’re playing first base and you got another guy who can come in and play that as well,” Williams said. “That’s the thought behind it. He’s taking ground balls every now and then at third base, so we might mix him in there, too, with the same mindset.”
Williams has stressed that the ball comes off Viciedo’s bat better than almost any hitter in the organization. With Viciedo’s offense serving as his main asset, the White Sox don’t want to mess too much with his defensive position.
“We’re very mindful of not making him [switch positions frequently], not disrupting him too much, because he’s really come on strong with that bat,” said Williams of Viciedo, who is hitting .322, with 32 RBIs and a .865 OPS.